Third Wave Podcast

Psychedelic entrepreneurs Tiffany Liu, Tim Sae Koo, and Michael Costuros join Paul Austin in San Francisco for a conversation on the intersection of psychedelics and business. Can psychedelics help change our exploitative business mindsets, and produce more compassionate, fair practices?

For show links go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-66-costuros-liu-koo/

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Psychedelic psychotherapists Ingmar Gorman and Elizabeth Nielson speak at our 3W Nodes event in NYC about preparing for and integrating a psychedelic experience. These experienced psychologists share the best techniques for getting the most out of a psychedelic trip.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/episode-65-ingmar-gorman-elizabeth-nielson/

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“If you think that the point of drug policy was to control minority groups, to exploit the resources of other countries; then it’s been an enormous success.”

Academic lawyer Charlotte Walsh shares her experience working in drug policy, and explains why the UK is facing an uphill battle to change the stigma around psychoactive substances. Although police forces in the UK have some capacity to diverge from national policy and work to their own drug policy, this is nowhere near the power that US states can exercise in response to federal law.

Charlotte explains the unique challenges that the UK faces before achieving legalization, including: a powerful right-wing tabloid media; a deep-rooted anti-cannabis stigma; and particularly unforgiving attitudes towards cognitive liberty.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-64-charlotte-walsh/

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Join us at our 3W Node event in New York, with our guest Dr. Will Siu, a psychiatrist who has been trained as a psychedelic therapist by MAPS. He talks about the problems with conventional therapy, and explains how psychedelic-assisted therapy could take up some of the slack.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-63-will-siu/

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David Bronner is the “Cosmic Engagement Officer” for the family business, Dr. Bronner’s Soap (yes, the big bottles you’ve seen for decades at pharmacies and health food stores alike). He’s a proud psychonaut who has helped his company’s annual revenue grow from $5 million to $125 million. Along the way he’s created a new standard for how corporations can improve the lives of their employees and partners while giving away huge sums of money to vital causes.

David’s life’s work challenges us to reimagine ourselves as citizens of the planet, cultural participants, self-aware consumers, and individuals seeking wholeness. He warns about the "disaster of the Western colonialist mindset."

On this week’s podcast, one of the most prolific donors and respected leaders in the psychedelic space joins Paul Austin for a fascinating discussion on psychedelics, business ethics, and sustainability.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-62-david-bronner/

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In this episode, veteran advocate Matthew Kahl talks about going from taking 20 prescription medications a day to letting them gather dust in his medicine cabinet—and how he carries that transformation into his work.

After you listen to Matt’s story of recovery and growth propelled by cannabis and ayahuasca, you’ll understand why he’s dedicated his life to bringing these substances to a wider population.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-61-matthew-kahl/

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Elizabeth Bast, author and entheogenic coach, shares her well-rounded experience with the plant medicine iboga. She speaks about its potential for personal healing and psycho-spiritual growth, and also the issues surrounding its cultural history and evolving future. We also discuss the current state of the psychedelic movement, and examine how we can culturally integrate these medicines and use their teachings to guide us as we strive to make them available to as many people as possible.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-60-elizabeth-bast/

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Stefana Bosse, Head of Experience for the London Psychedelic Society, explains what psychedelic ceremony means to her, and why psychedelic societies are so important for the healing of people and culture. We hear about what made Stefana decide to work in psychedelics, and why the transformations that psychedelics induce can be so profound.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-59-stefana-bosse

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From fashion model to psychedelic guide – Kim Iglinsky has an unusual career path. Kim describes how her upbringing in an Israeli Kibbutz, followed by an unsatisfying career in modelling, led to her seeking love and belonging in psychedelic ritual. Ayahuasca played an important part in the transformation that helped her find meaning and fulfilment in life. She describes her practices of psychedelic integration, and how her microdosing regime keeps her depression at bay.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-58-kim-iglinsky/

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Although Adam Strauss named his popular show “The Mushroom Cure,” his psychedelic knowledge doesn’t end at psilocybin mushrooms. In this episode, Adam shares with us the good and bad of his psychedelic experiences – from solipsistic nightmares to curative perspective shifts. We hear about Adam’s opinion on microdosing, and how exposing his vulnerabilities on stage is just what some people need.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-57-adam-strauss/

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Anthropologist Sophia Rokhlin joins us on the podcast to discuss ayahuasca, sustainability, and the role of microdosing in capitalist society. Sophia shares her experiences with ayahuasca shamans, and describes the issues of sustainability – where should we draw the line when it comes to the commodification of ayahuasca? Sophia also gives her opinion on microdosing, and the dangers of it being used to further corporate ‘growth-at-all-costs’ goals.

For show links, see here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-56-sophia-rokhlin/

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As one of the world’s top fitness coaches, Ben Greenfield has a lot of experience with self-optimization. So what does he have to say about psychedelics and psychedelic microdosing as tools for personal development? We discuss rites of passage, ego loss, and holistic health – and how spirituality can be an important complement to physical fitness. 

Disclaimer:in this podcast, Ben briefly discusses stem cell therapies. These are unapproved and have often been associated with deadly scams. Please don’t take Ben’s experiments as medical advice.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-55-ben-greenfield/

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Tao Lin, celebrated novelist and poet, describes the perception-altering effects of psychedelics and microdosing, and how they’ve influenced his outlook on life. Tao discusses the importance of listening to ancestral wisdom, and how plant medicines can be used with other complementary practices to improve our lives. We talk about the damages of modern life, and what a rural lifestyle could offer us.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-54-tao-lin/

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Zoe Helene, psychedelic feminist and cultural activist, joins us to talk sacred plant medicines, cultural preservation, and the importance of diversity in psychedelic communities. Zoe shares how her experiences with ayahuasca have influenced her world view, especially around “plant spirit,” and the importance of preserving indigenous cultural traditions. We also discuss the far-reaching damages that have resulted from patriarchal oppression, and how the psychedelic renaissance is not immune.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-53-zoe-helene/

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Martijn Schirp, founder of High Existence and the psychedelic retreats ‘Synthesis’ and ‘Apotheosis,’ joins us to talk about psychedelic ceremony and personal development. Martijn explains why he decided to set up his own style of psychedelic ceremony, and how they differ from more traditional, ritualistic frameworks. He shares with us his hopes for the future of psychedelics and their integration into mainstream society.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-52-martijn-schirp/

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Benjamin De Loenen, founder of plant medicine non-profit ICEERS, joins us for a discussion on ayahuasca and iboga. We discuss the wide-ranging impact that plant medicines could have on modern society, and the implications of disrespecting their power and origin. Benjamin lays out the various traps the psychedelic movement could fall into, and the best approaches to getting psychedelic medicines accepted by policymakers and the public.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-51-benjamin-de-loenen/

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Medicine Hunter Chris Kilham joins us to talk about plant medicines, shamanism, and cultural appropriation. Is ayahuasca the ideal psychedelic? What’s the best way to prepare for an ayahuasca ceremony? And what can we do to avoid robbing native shamans of their sacraments?

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-50-chris-kilham/

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James W. Jesso is a public speaker and author who is a world-leading psychedelic expert. In our interview with James, we discuss the ‘shadow side’ of our lives, and how psilocybin mushrooms could help us come into contact with it. James believes that encountering our deepest fears and unknowns will allow us to be more in control of our lives.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-49-james-jesso/

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Our guest for this episode is Anthony David Adams, entrepreneur and life coach, who shares his remarkable journey through childhood trauma, mental health issues, and psychedelics. Anthony describes how psychedelics helped him face his traumas more starkly than ever before, allowing him to heal and embark on a new story of self-discovery.

For show links: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-48-anthony-adams/

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Ingmar Gorman, Ph.D. clinical psychologist and principal investigator in MAPS’ research into MDMA-assisted psychotherapy, is our guest this week. Ingmar shares with us his journey into the world of psychedelic therapy, and what he hopes the research at MAPS can achieve. We also discuss the rise of microdosing, and why Ingmar believes we should be cautious about its benefits.

For show links: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-47-ingmar-gorman/

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